Thanks folks for the help, I have made a few play flat bows for the grand-kids but never a true shooter. I do love archery a lot more then shooting guns. My brother was my Robin Hood growing up but being I have a disability I could never shoot his long bow. I do shoot one now with wheels and love it. It's time to learn to shoot a traditional bow. I also hope to be making quivers soon. Again Thanks for the help.