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Offline Feltwad

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Unusual Flintlock
« on: January 24, 2013, 01:52:36 PM »
Just aquired an interesting flintlock sporting rifle ,it is a 69 caibre with 9 grooves and a 42inch iron barrel .The gun is full stocked  in walnut with brass furniture and dates  about 1760 or early, the unusal thing about this gun is it is a breech loader  of the La Chaumettes system of the 18th and 17th  century  which was the forerunner of the famous Ferguson breech loading rifle .I have enclosed some images which may  interest some members.
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2013, 01:58:33 PM »
Nice Feltwad! Funny the idea didn't impress the armies around at that time. Way faster and safer to load under enemy fire.
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2013, 01:59:17 PM »
More images
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2013, 04:40:49 PM »
A wonderful piece to come upon feltwad!
I would definately date this gun later than the time frame you give due to the lock, lock panels and trigger guard.
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2013, 05:22:52 PM »
Seems like a good idea, if'n you don't drop the plug somewhere you can't find it.  Ferguson's spinner guard is a great idea. And something I'd like to build----someday....Tom
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2013, 05:25:34 PM »
Except for the bore, that looks to be in wonderful condition for it's age. Has it been restored in any way?
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2013, 05:52:08 PM »
Does that hole go all the way through the sight/plug,.... and is it a combination "peep" sight of some sort?
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2013, 05:15:03 AM »
Quote from: "Hank in WV"
Except for the bore, that looks to be in wonderful condition for it's age. Has it been restored in any way?
Quote from: "rollingb"
and is it a combination "peep" sight of some sort?
I would say the stock has been restored because there is  signs of worm ,but this must have been many decades ago, the gun came from a collector which had been in his  collection for over 30 years and was in the same condition has it is now.
For the sight yes it is  both an open v sight and peep sight.
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2013, 05:49:08 AM »
That sure is asome. I had no idea they made anything like that so erly on.
 Thanks for shairring with us.
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2013, 09:16:54 AM »
Wonderful piece. Thanks for sharing.
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2013, 10:20:10 AM »
It's pretty nice to look at, too...
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2013, 10:31:53 AM »
nice felt wad . not sure how i would like the rear sight being a plug . but it sure seems that it would work .
 now the question . is the hole in the plug  for a lanyard to attach to so that the plug doesnt get lost  OR is it an early peep sight ?

also lloks as if the butt has had a major repair dont to it at one time or another . can you tell how that was done . is it glued or is it screwed  in place  from under the  buttplate ?
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2013, 12:38:07 PM »
Quote from: "Captchee"
nice felt wad . not sure how i would like the rear sight being a plug . but it sure seems that it would work .
 now the question . is the hole in the plug  for a lanyard to attach to so that the plug doesnt get lost  OR is it an early peep sight ?

also lloks as if the butt has had a major repair dont to it at one time or another . can you tell how that was done . is it glued or is it screwed  in place  from under the  buttplate ?

That's what I was wondering too,... the hole seems kind'a low for it to be used as a proper "peep." IMO
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2013, 12:49:55 PM »
Quote from: "Captchee"
nice felt wad . not sure how i would like the rear sight being a plug . but it sure seems that it would work .
 now the question . is the hole in the plug  for a lanyard to attach to so that the plug doesnt get lost  OR is it an early peep sight ?

also lloks as if the butt has had a major repair dont to it at one time or another . can you tell how that was done . is it glued or is it screwed  in place  from under the  buttplate ?

Captchee

Yes the sight is an early peep sight which lines up exactly with the front sight when shouldered .The stock has some time in the past been restored because of worm, I have not had the butt plate off but for the length of the stock restoration I would say it is screwed glued or dowled  will take it off and see.Researching this rifle it seems that this principle of breech loading flintlocks along with other types was pretty common on sporting rifles up till 1810
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Re: Unusual Flintlock
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2013, 09:27:32 PM »
How is this rifle loaded.  If the powder is dropped aft of the loading hole and the ball dropped in on top it doesn't appear that there is much resistance to hold the ball in place.  If the the powder is dropped aft of the loading hole and the ball goes forward it looks like the chamber is really large or it uses a very large powder charge.

Just curious.
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