Uncle Russ I agree, I know I have my fair share of off par moments haha. I'm thinking of definitely going with a small smoothie, but wanted to ask Keb was the .20 smoothie you had accurate? Guy was telling me back home that a smooth bore that small would have a pie pan size grouping at 20 yards at best. Which didn't make sense because I know some of you are shooting better then that at 50 to 70 yards with the big smooth bores.