Your TMA Officers and Board of Directors
Support the TMA! ~ Traditional Muzzleloaders ~ The TMA is here for YOU!
*** JOIN in on the TMA 2024 POSTAL MATCH *** it's FREE for ALL !

For TMA related products, please check out the new TMA Store !

The Flintlock Paper

*** Folk Firearms Collective Videos ***



Author Topic: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit  (Read 6939 times)

Offline Uncle Russ

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7337
  • TMA Founder. Walk softly & carry a big Smoothbore!
  • TMA Member: Founder / Charter Member #004
  • Location: Columbia Basin, Washington State
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #60 on: June 14, 2019, 10:36:38 PM »
I like the looks of that aqua fortis stain. I might even go that route on my build.  :hairy
I'm in total agreement Joe.
In fact, I've been thinking about stripping down my old smoothie and redoing it and I believe I'm going to go with the Aqua Fortis since that stock is also Maple.
 :hairy
It's the many things we don't do that totally sets us apart.
TMA Co-Founder / Charter Member# 4

Online RobD

  • TMA Admin
  • ****
  • Posts: 3538
  • TMA President & Contributing Member
  • Location: NJ
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #61 on: June 19, 2019, 07:46:00 AM »
2 wipes with separate heat gunning of the aqua fortis, 4 wipes of tru-oil.  getting there slowly.

 [ Invalid Attachment ]   [ Invalid Attachment ]   [ Invalid Attachment ]

Online Hank in WV

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 1988
  • TMA Member: Charter Member #65
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #62 on: June 19, 2019, 07:59:49 AM »
Lordy, that's some beautiful lumber.
Hank in WV
TMA Charter Member #65, exp 4/30/2026
"Much of the social history of the western world over the past three decades has involved replacing what worked with what sounded good. . ." Thomas Sowell

Online RobD

  • TMA Admin
  • ****
  • Posts: 3538
  • TMA President & Contributing Member
  • Location: NJ
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #63 on: June 19, 2019, 08:01:06 AM »
i will add that i think aqua fortis is THE way to go.  the kibler's concoction isn't as nasty as some of the other stuff i've used, and it appears to require at least dual wipes and heatings if you want a darker coloring.  also, i had to use a high heat setting in order to best blush out the color, with the nozzle moved fairly rapidly and within an inch or so of the wood in order to get the acid to best react and reddish-amber up.  however, even with that much heat i had no edge burns, which was a surprise.  very pleased with the kibler aqua fortis.


Online rollingb

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 6947
  • TMA Founder
  • TMA: Founder
  • TMA Member: TMA Charter Member#6
  • Location: Northwest KS
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #64 on: June 19, 2019, 09:58:04 AM »
BEAUTIFUL!   :hairy :hairy
"An honest man is worth his weight in gold"
For only $1.25 per-month, you too can help preserve our traditional muzzleloading heritage.
TMA Founder
TMA Charter Member #6

Online RobD

  • TMA Admin
  • ****
  • Posts: 3538
  • TMA President & Contributing Member
  • Location: NJ
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #65 on: June 22, 2019, 08:05:03 PM »
pretty much done, ready for baptism .... at last!

















Online rollingb

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 6947
  • TMA Founder
  • TMA: Founder
  • TMA Member: TMA Charter Member#6
  • Location: Northwest KS
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #66 on: June 22, 2019, 08:43:44 PM »
She REALLY, REALLY, looks NICE!  :hairy :applaud
"An honest man is worth his weight in gold"
For only $1.25 per-month, you too can help preserve our traditional muzzleloading heritage.
TMA Founder
TMA Charter Member #6

Offline Ohio Joe

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 7660
  • TMA Founder / Charter Member# 8
  • TMA Member: Founder
  • Location: Nebraska
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #67 on: June 22, 2019, 08:44:25 PM »
That is a very nice looking rifle, excellent!!!  :hairy

Can hardy wait for the Range Report on 'er. Mighty nice rifle!!! :hairy
Chadron Fur Trade Days Rendezvous / "Ol' Candle Snuffer"
"Museum of the Fur Trade" Chadron, Nebraska

Spotted Bull

  • Guest
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #68 on: June 22, 2019, 08:45:18 PM »
Holy smokes!!

Online Two Steps

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 5173
  • TMA Charter Member
  • TMA Member: TMA Charter Member #47 Expires 3/22/23
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #69 on: June 22, 2019, 10:17:51 PM »
That's a darn good looking rifle there sir  :applaud
Two Steps/Al Bateman
I envy no man that knows more than myself,
and pity them that know less.  (Sir T. Brown)

TMA Charter Member 47

Online Nessmuk

  • TMA BoD
  • ****
  • Posts: 999
  • 2019 thru 2023 Postal Match Director
  • TMA Member: TMA Contributing Member
  • Location: OK
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #70 on: June 23, 2019, 07:00:59 AM »
Extremely  Impressive  Rifle.
I am SO jealous of your skill.

 :bl th up :bl th up :bl th up :bl th up :bl th up
I'm  not  H/C or P/C or even a particularly  good shot but I have a hell of a good time!

Dedicated to the TMA.
Join us, Friend

Online RobD

  • TMA Admin
  • ****
  • Posts: 3538
  • TMA President & Contributing Member
  • Location: NJ
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #71 on: June 23, 2019, 08:24:54 AM »
honestly, there really was no great skill in building this kit. 

there are kits and then there are KITS. the key ingredient is the stock, which can vary from literally an outlined plank to one that this fully CNC inletted and mortised. that's what trad muzzleloader kits are all primarily about - the condition of stock. almost no one is a "gunmaker" these dayze, where custom guns are built by "stockmakers" simply because the barrel and lock are both pre-made. the furniture can be scratch built or pre-made as well. this comes down to one's level of crafting skills - and tooling. the offshore "screwdriver" kits are, for the most part, just that - only a screwdriver is required to put the parts together along with very minor fitting.

TVM and Jim Kibler kits have CNC machined and inletted stocks that will always require fitting, but the real hard work is done, and that's always about making a proper trad muzzleloader long gun stock. it will really pay to question kit makers about the stocks they're offering, and then assess that against yer abilities and tool chest.

if one has a desire to "build their own", but is unsure of their abilities and the tools required, the absolute best starting point is with a lyman/investarms kit gun.  yes, a "screwdriver" kit, but there will be some minor fitting here and there, along with the opportunity to rasp/sand wood and apply a stain/finish.  plus, some serious dollars would be saved to boot.

then there is the question of metal finishing - or not.  i always choose not and prefer to allow the steel, iron and brass to honestly patina/relic on their own, as mostly was done back in the 18th century.  but, if desired, it's another opportunity to get in some crafting knowledge.




Offline Keb

  • TMA Forum Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 66
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #72 on: June 23, 2019, 09:19:48 AM »
That's a good looking gun you got there, Rob. You did a good job on the finish.

Offline Uncle Russ

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 7337
  • TMA Founder. Walk softly & carry a big Smoothbore!
  • TMA Member: Founder / Charter Member #004
  • Location: Columbia Basin, Washington State
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #73 on: June 23, 2019, 03:56:19 PM »
Rob the Gunmaker!
That is one good looking longrifle, can't say I've ever seen anything more pleasing to the eye.

 :hairy
It's the many things we don't do that totally sets us apart.
TMA Co-Founder / Charter Member# 4

Online Bigsmoke

  • TMA Contributing Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 4137
  • TMA: Charter Member #150
Re: Jim Kibler Colonial Rifle Kit
« Reply #74 on: June 23, 2019, 05:27:08 PM »
Rob the Gunmaker!
That is one good looking longrifle, can't say I've ever seen anything more pleasing to the eye.

 :hairy

x 2.  Kinda takes ones breath away.  Nice job, Rob.
Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest Up to God.

BigSmoke - John Shorb
TMA Charter Member #150  
NRA - Life
Coeur d'Alene Muzzleloaders - Life