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Offline Puffer

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Flint ??
« on: November 15, 2019, 01:13:02 PM »
Was offered some "French Amber Flints" (1/2" for my pistol) The $ is good but I have always been told that they were not as good as the "British Black Flints" (I use Tom Fuller's English Gun Flints ) Any 1 here use the "French" (if so tell me what You think)
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #1 on: November 15, 2019, 04:17:57 PM »
Jack,
If it ain't broke, why try to fix it???
Personally, like you, I have always relied on the black English flint and have never had a problem.  And of the thousands I have sold, I cannot recall any unhappy customers.
I have heard tell of some people that felt the ambers were better and of course the opposite also holds true.
I would say that if the $$$$$ is right, why not give them a try.  You might even wind up liking them better.  Or not.  As always, a field report will be expected.
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #2 on: November 15, 2019, 05:03:04 PM »
Darn it,,, I can't find it now, but I was reading a short article on this somewhere's and if I recall what I read at the time (I thought it made a'lot of sense);

[With a light striking frizzen - French flints work great and last quite a while] & [With a hard striking frizzen they don't hold up so well]

I take that to mean; Off-Shore Locks and the Lyman GPR and even the TC Flintlock muzzleloaders probably love 'em... And I would include the L&R John Bailes flintlock...

I think the Large Siler Locks would eat 'em up - but I've never had a Small Siler Lock to know how strong its Mainspring is.

Hope this helps somewhat Puffer... As John said, why not give 'em a try.  :bl th up 
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #3 on: November 15, 2019, 05:36:50 PM »
I have used them in my Pedersoli Frontier, my Hatfield and my custom Jaeger.  The locks on these rifles take large (7/8") flints and they seem to spark well and last just as long as the black English. 

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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2019, 06:04:43 PM »
I've been doing some more searching, (still can't find the article I was looking for), but I do agree with several articles I ran across as I searched Google...

Geometry of the, cock & frizzen, hardness of the frizzen, pitted frizzen -vs- smooth, flint placement in the jaws,,, it all plays together,,, and all I read actually had positive things to say about the French Amber Flints... There was one mention of the fact that the only draw back is that it's a one-side flint and can't be turned around like the English Flints... However, from what I also read, several were saying 40 to 60 to 80 to 100 shots from this single edge style French Amber Flint...

Again, I agree with John, if the price is right - why not give them a try.  :shake   
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #5 on: November 15, 2019, 06:12:25 PM »
I have used them in my Pedersoli Frontier, my Hatfield and my custom Jaeger.  The locks on these rifles take large (7/8") flints and they seem to spark well and last just as long as the black English.

Thanks -- My pistol = Pedersoli Mortimer & fav. Rifle = a Pedersoli Mortimer & I have the 12ga. also.
So may work. ::)
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2019, 10:38:42 PM »
Darn it,,, I can't find it now, but I was reading a short article on this somewhere's and if I recall what I read at the time (I thought it made a'lot of sense);

[With a light striking frizzen - French flints work great and last quite a while] & [With a hard striking frizzen they don't hold up so well]

I take that to mean; Off-Shore Locks and the Lyman GPR and even the TC Flintlock muzzleloaders probably love 'em... And I would include the L&R John Bailes flintlock...


I think the Large Siler Locks would eat 'em up - but I've never had a Small Siler Lock to know how strong its Mainspring is.

Hope this helps somewhat Puffer... As John said, why not give 'em a try.  :bl th up


Joe, I have two pistols with small silers and the springs are very,very strong , both the frizen and main springs. Problem is I have no idea how old they are. And I cant remember if I have had amber flints, if I had its been several yrs, maybe in Texas.
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2019, 05:56:57 AM »
Darn it,,, I can't find it now, but I was reading a short article on this somewhere's and if I recall what I read at the time (I thought it made a'lot of sense);

[With a light striking frizzen - French flints work great and last quite a while] & [With a hard striking frizzen they don't hold up so well]

I take that to mean; Off-Shore Locks and the Lyman GPR and even the TC Flintlock muzzleloaders probably love 'em... And I would include the L&R John Bailes flintlock...


I think the Large Siler Locks would eat 'em up - but I've never had a Small Siler Lock to know how strong its Mainspring is.

Hope this helps somewhat Puffer... As John said, why not give 'em a try.  :bl th up


Joe, I have two pistols with small silers and the springs are very,very strong , both the frizen and main springs. Problem is I have no idea how old they are. And I cant remember if I have had amber flints, if I had its been several yrs, maybe in Texas.

My guess would have been that the small Siler Locks would have a strong main spring, based on how strong the Large Siler Lock main spring is.  :shake
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 06:34:03 AM »
The small Siler I put in a flint pistol is strong but definitley lighter than my large Silers.
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2019, 08:47:40 AM »
Came across some Amber flints a couple of weeks ago.  Shot the first one (about 20 rounds). I saw no difference.  I even have some white Missouri chert that works well.  Works well enough I’ve successfully hunted with it.  Made a crude flint from a piece of Texas chert that I found on the ground   It worked well also.  I need to follow up on learning to make my own better
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2019, 09:59:45 AM »
The small Siler I put in a flint pistol is strong but definitley lighter than my large Silers.

Thanks Hank.  :bl th up

Having never used the small Siler, I wasn't sure...  :shake
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2019, 02:22:37 PM »
Came across some Amber flints a couple of weeks ago.  Shot the first one (about 20 rounds). I saw no difference.  I even have some white Missouri chert that works well.  Works well enough I’ve successfully hunted with it.  Made a crude flint from a piece of Texas chert that I found on the ground   It worked well also.  I need to follow up on learning to make my own better

Can't even imagine making my own flints...so my hat is off to ya.  :hairy
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2019, 02:49:34 PM »
I've used both the black and amber flints and can't tell any difference.  The amber seem to last just as long as the black.
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Re: Flint ??
« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2019, 08:10:32 PM »
Shot another 20+ rounds today with that same amber flint. Knapped it once. Still going.
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