None of the trad muzzleloaders of any century before the 20th had "spiraled" rods, that was a "modern concept". I know that Hacker Martin did them, and a few other gunsmiths of the 2nd quarter of that century (as read in Firefox 5). In any event, I don't like that look at all, so to each their own, as it should be.
The Kibler Woodsrunner kit is a remarkable innovation in trad muzzleloader kit history. Nothing has ever come close to what Jim offers and all it takes to stick one of these kits together is knowing the difference 'tween a screwdriver and a hammer, they're that easy to build. Just amazing. I'm gonna order another, this time as a .45 and in cherry.
Yep, got the Kibler email about the $375 optional CNC stock "carving" - that is something I'd NEVER want, no way, no how. Yucky!