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Offline FG1

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Arrow shafts
« on: July 31, 2008, 05:05:10 PM »
I just ordered a semi finish hickory bow kit and would like to know if there are wooden shafting in 33-34" lengths available. I bought some years ago from a place in myrtle point oregon but they are no longer in buisness.
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« Reply #1 on: August 01, 2008, 12:52:31 AM »
Frank, port orford cedar shafts are what most of the guys out here use, there is a supplier in Oregon somewhere cuz thats where there coming from, send a pm to Fletcher, he knows the place, beav
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« Reply #2 on: August 01, 2008, 09:39:52 AM »
Rose City Archery in Mrytle Point is the only supplier of Port Orford Cedar that I know.  However I think they only make shafts to 32" and do not sell direct to the public.

There is a hex- laminated shaft (I think the wood is fir) that is good and I believe they do make longer shafts.  I will try to find the website for you.

OBTW, I would guess that if you really shoot a 34" arrow you must be at least 6'11" tall?

If you can get by with 32"  pm me - plenty in stock.
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« Reply #3 on: August 19, 2008, 07:56:25 AM »
FGI,

Why do you need such long shafts?
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« Reply #4 on: August 19, 2008, 11:29:17 AM »
Ron, I'm 6'6" and with arms extended forward with palms together I measure 33" from chest to end of fingertips . I thought this was the old standard for measuring for arrow length ????
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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2008, 01:02:57 PM »
How long is the bow you've got coming. A hickory bow, all wood will have to be 7' long to take a 33" draw or it won't last long.

I'm 6'1 and when I measure the way you did, it comes to 28 1/2"...BUT,...I cut my arrows to 27" and my draw length is 26".

I think your going to have to shorten your draw as much as you can and not stretch out to your full potential. You can do this by anchoring at the front of your face instead of back by the side of the face. Also bend your bow arm a little instead of having it straight.

#1 it's hard to get arrows that long, #2 the longer the shaft, the weaker the spine (stiffness). Example, a 40# bow with a 33" arrow would need shafts spined at 60#. #3 with a long draw you'll need a long bow, over 6 feet.

It will be to your advantage if you can shorten your draw as much as possible and still be comfortable shooting.

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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2008, 02:38:02 PM »
Ron , unstrung its 6' all hickory floor tillered stave .They sent some linen to glue on for backing .
With compound bow my anchor was tip of index finger at corner of mouth . Sounds like I will have to change anchor to thumb knuckle to corner of mouth.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2008, 06:14:51 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2008, 02:58:44 PM »
FG1 - did you get that bow and the shafts worked out?

I just did a couple hickory staves and backed with linen.  I use Tite Bond II for the glue and it works well and looks 'natural'.

When the bows are done I will use a light stain over all and then coat the whole thing with several coats of Tung oil.  That makes for a nice finish and the linen does add strength and improves the cast a bit.

Did you decide on arrow shaft length?
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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2008, 03:19:17 PM »
FGI, just going from a compound to a longbow will probably shorten your draw 1 or 2 inches. Best thing to do is just mark off a long arrow like a yard stick and have someone stand beside you and they can read off the marks to let you know how much you are actually drawing. Mike
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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2008, 06:22:44 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2008, 10:57:33 PM »
Havent had a chance as yet . I've been pretty busy. I plan on getting after it this winter to keep from going stir crazy  :lol: I found plans online for making a tiller tree that I need to make also . Is there any other specialty items I'll need in the way of tools other than what I use for gun building ?
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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2008, 11:07:29 PM »
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Ron, I'm 6'6" and with arms extended forward with palms together I measure 33" from chest to end of fingertips ...

Sure look shorter in your avatar ;)
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« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2008, 01:14:38 PM »
If you are going to make a bow you need a draw knife, spokeshave and good rasp like a #49 Nickolson - probably a good bandsaw and combo belt/disc sander will speed things up a lot unless you have plenty of time and want to do it all the 'old way'

Oh a good shave horse too.

For arrows you need a good fletching tool, taper tool, and I use dip tubes for laquer coating and a Young Feather Burner to trim fletching from full cuts rather than using die cuts.  I get a more 'primitive' look that way.
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« Reply #14 on: December 03, 2008, 02:06:01 PM »
Thanks Fletcher ! Looks like I'm set for tools for the bow . I have a fletch jig but not the other items for arrows.
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