Not "legal here" BUT I would LOVE to Have !!!! A " Halls 18.. Breach loader !!!

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Not "legal here" BUT I would LOVE to Have !!!! A " Halls 1817 Breach loader !!!

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[Bigsmoke]

OK, I give up, how come it is illegal to have in the Peoples' Republic of Washington???
Too high a capacity in the flash pan?
You're right, it is a beauty and I would like to have one also.  But being in CA, I imagine it would be illegal here also.
Happy Thanksgiving, Jack.
John (Bigsmoke)

[rollingb]

By "not legal here",.... are you referring to where you live,... or,... here within the TMA?

There's absolutely nuthin' wrong with having, or, discussing pre-1900 flintlock breech loaders here at the TMA.   

[Puffer]

But if the "match" is TMA Sanctioned Can They Be Used ?

[Puffer]

OK, I give up, how come it is illegal to have in the Peoples' Republic of Washington???
Too high a capacity in the flash pan?
You're right, it is a beauty and I would like to have one also.  But being in CA, I imagine it would be illegal here also.
Happy Thanksgiving, Jack.
John (Bigsmoke)

it is legal in WA [no ffl req,]

[Eddie Southgate]

But if the "match" is TMA Sanctioned Can They Be Used ?

   I can't imagine why not . It is a flint lock ignition and uses loose powder and ball does it not ? Sounds legal to me .

[rollingb]

But if the "match" is TMA Sanctioned Can They Be Used ?

Absolutely! 

[Winter Hawk]

If you can afford it, we'll let you shoot it (for a BIG donation to TMA, of course)!

~Kees~

[Ohio Joe]

A breech loading rifle dates back to the American Revolution (Ferguson Rifle). IMHO, these rifles that were fed with a paper cartridge (or loose powder) at the breech end - and were in need of a prime (be it powder in the lock pan -or- cap on the nipple) I feel they should be allowed and not overlooked nor shut out by the TMA... Just my thoughts.

Yes, even the Percussion Sharps Rifle should be included in the group above.

[BEAVERMAN]

A breech loading rifle dates back to the American Revolution (Ferguson Rifle). IMHO, these rifles that were fed with a paper cartridge (or loose powder) at the breech end - and were in need of a prime (be it powder in the lock pan -or- cap on the nipple) I feel they should be allowed and not overlooked nor shut out by the TMA... Just my thoughts.

Yes, even the Percussion Sharps Rifle should be included in the group above.

AGREED!

[RobD]

But if the "match" is TMA Sanctioned Can They Be Used ?

I would say ... sorry, but no - it's not a true traditional side lock muzzleloader.   If allowed, next thing ya know there'll be competitors (like me!) with rollers and Sharps. 

ALL good guns, but we got to draw the line at both traditional and muzzleloader.

[rollingb]

A breech loading rifle dates back to the American Revolution (Ferguson Rifle). IMHO, these rifles that were fed with a paper cartridge (or loose powder) at the breech end - and were in need of a prime (be it powder in the lock pan -or- cap on the nipple) I feel they should be allowed and not overlooked nor shut out by the TMA... Just my thoughts.

Yes, even the Percussion Sharps Rifle should be included in the group above.

 I agree!   

Anyone wanting to put on a TMA sanctioned shooting match, can simply limit the Sharps percussion breech loading rifle to patched round ball ammo,.... I've yet to see conical bullets allowed in ANY pre-1840 shooting match. 

[Bigsmoke]

But if the "match" is TMA Sanctioned Can They Be Used ?

I would say ... sorry, but no - it's not a true traditional side lock muzzleloader.   If allowed, next thing ya know there'll be competitors (like me!) with rollers and Sharps. 

ALL good guns, but we got to draw the line at both traditional and muzzleloader.

I seem to recall that maybe Pedersoli or one of the other Italian manufacturers did put out a Remington style rolling block with a nipple instead of a firing pin back some time ago.  I am thinking that was in the 1970's or 1980's.  I don't think that gun ever really caught on.
John (Bigsmoke)

[rollingb]

 

I seem to recall that maybe Pedersoli or one of the other Italian manufacturers did put out a Remington style rolling block with a nipple instead of a firing pin back some time ago.  I am thinking that was in the 1970's or 1980's.  I don't think that gun ever really caught on.
John (Bigsmoke)

That they did!
But the pre-1900 design clause in our TMA Mission Statement excludes them as being acceptable.

I'm a little surprised the British Ferguson breech loading rifle hasn't been mentioned along with the Hall's breech loader yet.