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Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« on: July 02, 2023, 11:43:28 AM »
Hey fellas, I'm going to be ordering a Kibler Woodsrunner kit and I'm on the fence about ordering a Maple or a Cherry stock, I've worked Maple many times in the past both plain and high figure, never have done a Cherry stock, any thoughts, pros and cons?
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2023, 12:35:24 PM »
Jim, I've only worked with walnut and maple, but I've seen some nice cherry stocked rifles in my time...  :shake
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2023, 01:51:15 PM »
All of my flintlocks are figured maple.  I bought a highly figured cherry stock, and had it sent to Jim Kibler for my Woodsrunner as I wanted something different.  I assembled it and finished all of the metal.  It is now at a guy's shop who is doing the carving for me as I am not a wood carver.  No patience for it and sharpening chisels is not something I have been able to master.  Won't have it back until the end of the year as he has several builds in front of me.  So, no pictures right now.  I am a cherry wood fan and have a couple of countertops in my house made out of cherry.  Good luck in whatever you decide.   
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2023, 04:11:07 PM »
Well if I wuz me I'd order a maple if I were staining it a lighter color,  cherry if dark.  They're both beautiful woods.
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2023, 07:34:06 PM »
I just ordered another Woodsrunner kit (yep, another .54) and decided to try cherry for the first time.  I'm gonna ring up Jim and ask about his cherry wood - is it red heartwood or more white sap wood?  Also, cherry can be kinda iffy with regards to hardness, need to ask about that, too.  My dad was a fine cabinet maker by trade, but also a top notch engine mechanic, and when stationed down at Randolph Field, TX (Army Air Corps, 1942-45) during WWII, he carved a horse's head out of a large 14" block of cherry that he finished straight with oil, no stain, and the wood darkened lots over the decades to where it's a deep black cherry color now (my granddaughter rides horses, she's got the horse head).  Anyhoo, lots depends on the genus of cherry wood and where the stock blank was cut out of the log, but I expect to just Tru-Oil it and let it do it's own darkening over the years.

Jim - yer gonna LOVE the Woodsrunner kit !!!  :*:

Side story on the horse's head that might be of some general non-trad ML interest .... Dad won first place in a crafting contest with that "Strawberry Roam" (yes, "roam" and not "roan", I've yet to uncover exactly why) and shipped it off to his brother-in-law, Uncle Felix, as a welcoming home present of sorts.  Uncle Felix was a jockey in his youth, before Pearl Harbor, when he became a ball turret gunner on a B17 - but that event is a whole 'nother tale.  Where did Uncle Felix come home from in 1945?  Stalag 17.  He was a "guest" there for about 2-1/2 years ... and that's a whole 'nother story, too.


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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2023, 01:12:01 AM »
I just ordered another Woodsrunner kit (yep, another .54) and decided to try cherry for the first time.  I'm gonna ring up Jim and ask about his cherry wood - is it red heartwood or more white sap wood?  Also, cherry can be kinda iffy with regards to hardness, need to ask about that, too.  My dad was a fine cabinet maker by trade, but also a top notch engine mechanic, and when stationed down at Randolph Field, TX (Army Air Corps, 1942-45) during WWII, he carved a horse's head out of a large 14" block of cherry that he finished straight with oil, no stain, and the wood darkened lots over the decades to where it's a deep black cherry color now (my granddaughter rides horses, she's got the horse head).  Anyhoo, lots depends on the genus of cherry wood and where the stock blank was cut out of the log, but I expect to just Tru-Oil it and let it do it's own darkening over the years.

Jim - yer gonna LOVE the Woodsrunner kit !!!  :*:

Side story on the horse's head that might be of some general non-trad ML interest .... Dad won first place in a crafting contest with that "Strawberry Roam" (yes, "roam" and not "roan", I've yet to uncover exactly why) and shipped it off to his brother-in-law, Uncle Felix, as a welcoming home present of sorts.  Uncle Felix was a jockey in his youth, before Pearl Harbor, when he became a ball turret gunner on a B17 - but that event is a whole 'nother tale.  Where did Uncle Felix come home from in 1945?  Stalag 17.  He was a "guest" there for about 2-1/2 years ... and that's a whole 'nother story, too.

Rob, I just sold a Northwest Star early english trade gun kit that I bought from an estate for a song 12 years ago and made a tidy profit on it, enough to almost pay for the plain jane woodsrunner kit, please let me know what you find out about the cherry when you talk to Kibler, I'm going with a 45, thanks, Beav
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2023, 05:33:54 PM »
Hey Rob, have you had a chance to talk with Jim yet?
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2023, 06:23:18 PM »
Hey Rob, have you had a chance to talk with Jim yet?

He hasn't been around, maybe due to the holiday.  I'll ring him up again tomorrow for sure, I'm very interested!  Also wondering if he can also offer one of the .54 bbls as a .58 smooth rifle.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2023, 09:25:55 PM »
Now that would be interesting and should be no problem to bore out
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2023, 05:35:20 PM »
Okay, the scoop on Kibler cherry wood stocks is that only the red heartwood is used, the densest part without pith inclusions.

The barrels are rifled by Green Mountain and then Jim does the profiling and flat work.   So, no smooth boring available, gotta get Bobby Hoyt to do that.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2023, 11:12:44 PM »
Thanks Rob!
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2023, 05:54:31 AM »
Thanks Rob!

Yer most welcome.   I've got one on order.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2023, 09:43:18 AM »
I need a couple more weeks, thinking about one of the carved stocks
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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2023, 07:48:04 PM »
well beav, I dont know what you've decided on but I pulled the trigger, so to speak , on a cherry .54 this evening. plain, no carving
 gonna grab a few extra shifts at work, so the wifey gave me the A OK . love that gal !

now we wait, I hate waiting.

seems a lot of people are talking about these kits.  it was all the rage at rondy last weekend.

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Re: Kibler Woodsrunner Maple vs Cherry stock
« Reply #14 on: August 03, 2023, 12:52:40 PM »
Maple unless you like cherry. I don't care for it for stocks.