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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2020, 10:09:03 AM »
I'm sure glad the Hodgepodge rifle has faster ignition than what that fellow had!   :laffing :laffing :laffing

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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #16 on: June 06, 2020, 07:56:33 PM »
Yes, that certainly was the wrong powder to be using, there's no doubt about it...

Kees, you'll like this;

In the past I've played around with 1fg Meteor Black Powder (from the '70's) that was made in England as a replacement powder when Dupont had its fire...

Anyway, I've tested this powder in calibers of; .40, .45, .50, .54, and my 28ga smoothy, and have tested it in flintlock as well as in caplocks...

Now one would think that this 1fg would be slow igniting "black powder" - but it's not, it's quick!!! The only draw back to it is that it's "dirty" - however I can get 3 to 5 shots off in a .45 caliber flintlock with it before having to have to swab the barrel,,, and in my Ed Rayl .40 caliber barrel (caplock rifle) I once got 11 shots off (40 grain charge) in a row and I think I could have kept on going a bit more, but it was time to go home...

How anyone could possibly think to do a video and post it using Pyrodex in a flintlock and that "slooooooow" ignition, and to do it over and over,,, well it just puzzles the heck out'a me...  But it was entertaining...  :laffing
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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #17 on: June 06, 2020, 09:23:43 PM »
Just got to watch the video. Kinda painful. No muzzle discipline at all when loading. And I bet ya $100 he used two patches with that second round. As easy as the first one was to load, he was probably using too thin a patch.

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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #18 on: June 17, 2020, 06:39:56 PM »
I shot my June postal targets today with the Hodgepodge rifle.  70 grains of Schuetzen FFg powder behind the .45 patched round ball, and primed with FFg also, from the horn.  Ignition was almost instantaneous for 14 shots.  I was happy!

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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #19 on: June 17, 2020, 07:51:23 PM »
I shot my June postal targets today with the Hodgepodge rifle.  70 grains of Schuetzen FFg powder behind the .45 patched round ball, and primed with FFg also, from the horn.  Ignition was almost instantaneous for 14 shots.  I was happy!

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Good on you Kees!!!  :hairy :yessir:

Believe it or not, I sometimes shoot that old Meteor 1fg Black Powder (made in the '70's in Britain to help with the American BP supply when Dupont had its accident) in my .45 caliber flintlocks - but I do prime it with 4fg... It actually works pretty darn good!!!
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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #20 on: June 17, 2020, 08:15:06 PM »
I shot my June postal targets today with the Hodgepodge rifle.  70 grains of Schuetzen FFg powder behind the .45 patched round ball, and primed with FFg also, from the horn.  Ignition was almost instantaneous for 14 shots.  I was happy!

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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #21 on: June 20, 2020, 07:09:03 PM »
I DO have FFFFg for priming, decided to prime from the horn and was pleasantly surprised how well it worked with FFg.  I used to do that with 3Fg but hadn't with the 2F.

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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2020, 07:15:13 PM »
from my readings, 2f would have been a luxury powder of sorts back in the 18th century, maybe early 19th as well.  everyone primed and loaded from one horn.  i prefer it that way, too, mostly with 3f but i still also use 1-1/2f as i always have twenty or so pounds of that flavor in the powder chest for those newfangled "modern" late 19th century guns :) 

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Re: Wrong Choice Of Powder For A Flintlock.
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2020, 07:57:48 PM »
I DO have FFFFg for priming, decided to prime from the horn and was pleasantly surprised how well it worked with FFg.  I used to do that with 3Fg but hadn't with the 2F.

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Kees, only reason I use 4fg is because I have two cans of it, and if I don't use it for that - I'm probably not going to use it at all...

Now I've primed with 3fg, 2fg, and even that old Meteor 1fg powder, and they all work just fine.

IMHO, there is no wrong choice when it comes to the 1fg, 2fg, and 3fg,,, but I wouldn't as rule load 4fg into any muzzleloading rifle - simply because of the pressure on ignition...  :hairy
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